HI Rebecca,

Is it possible baby's saliva is causing this irritation/pain?? Perhaps
bathing nipples with bicarbonate of soda solution or salty water may help
relieve the pain. I agree it could be hormonal - this mum may have ovulated
and not know it....many of us experience a lot of nipple pain (puts hand up
here!) at ovulation and/or menstruation and/or in pregnancy. Also have you
considered blocked duct or white spot? (might link with flu like symptoms ?
bordering mastitis) - "pain" can be described in many different
interpretations.

cheers
Del
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Del Smith
Group Leader and Breastfeeding Counsellor
Australian Breastfeeding Association www.breastfeeding.asn.au

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rebecca DeYoung Daniels" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:19 AM
Subject: Tooth Scraping or ??


> I'm out of tricks.  Client has given permission to post and is hopeful
you'll have some addt'l ideas.
>
> 9-month old has 2 bottom incisors and 1 top, is working on 2nd top.
Teething has been "easy" according to Mom...no sleepless nights or crabby
days.  Mom feels extreme pain on the areola and nipple while baby nurses,
regardless of position and extra attention to latch.  She's employed all the
suggestions for "tooth scraping" at kellymom to no avail (shorter than me
listing them all here!).  Nipples appear more red than usual, but areola
appears normal.  No itching or burning.  Mom feels as if breasts are less
full than they were 2 weeks ago; she's not cycled yet and is on a mini-pill.
OTC pregnancy test is negative.  Had a touch of stomach flu last Friday and
this pain intensified on Sunday.  She has tried pumping and the pain is only
slightly less intense than with Baby at breast.  Pain is most tolerable at
1st morning feeding when breasts are a bit fuller.
>
> Mom is adding ice packs for comfort, will try nursing in side-lying
position (the only one she's not tried) and will add APNO to see if that is
helpful.  Was going to consider ibuprofen, but wants the cause of the pain
addressed before throwing band-aids at the symptoms.  Would even consider
using shield inappropriately given in hospital when Baby was born...she's
that desperate!  Latch is great.  Baby is not clamping...Mom said that she's
done some of that in the past and it's not the same feeling or the same
pain.
>
> Symptoms are a bit confusing to me and I hate to treat for yeast if that's
not what it is.  Mom said she may be getting ready to menstruate and feels
emotional, but attributes that to the conflicting feelings about enduring
this extreme pain and wanting to continue nursing.
>
> Feel free to send your wisdom to me privately and TIA.
>
> Warmly,
> Rebecca DeYoung Daniels, MBA, RD, LD, IBCLC, RLC & MOM to 5
>
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