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In a message dated 05/12/2000 12:51:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Jennifer,
It must be Ankyoglossia week/month!  Saw my 4th tongue-tied baby this  month,
this morning.  His mom is a DDS so it was fun using Allison Hazelbaker's
ATLFF (Assessment Tool for Lingual Frenulum Fuction) with her as she could be
part of the assessment process.  Also, she had just spoken with her Ped, who
said if I was working with her he'd do whatever I suggested!!!!  That was a
delightful surprise.  At any rate, this one was clear and having a specific
diagnostic form does help gain credence with the documentation afficionados
:-).  Then there is something substantive to use as a point of talking about
options in this situation.  It definitely helps with credibility.  Good luck
to you on this!

Gretchen Andrews, BA, IBCLC
private practice, Redlands, So California, USA

<<
 I have had 2 interesting cases this week--one very frustrating, I'm afraid.
 The first one was a mom who called looking for a supplementer which someone
 told her to get b/c her baby was so frustrated at the breast due to nipple
 confusion. I made a home visit and found that the baby had a difficult time
 placing his tongue properly beneath my finger. Mom had blisters on the tips
 of her nipples (on the phone, she told me "the baby latched on beautifully in
 the hospital, but kept losing weight and no one knew why so they gave him ABM
 in bottles (told her afterwards) and then continued to give bottles, but when
 she asked to pump they told her she could do that when she went home". She
 also told me he clicked all of the time in the hospital. Her milk came in
 late on day 5 (induction, ceserean, mag sulph, poor stimulation). She was
 pumping w/ one of *those* brand pumps and was getting very little milk and
 feeding with a bottle (mostly ABM). Upon visual assessment, I found the
 baby's tongue, even in an upright position, did not reach past the gumline.
 The frenulum looked rather fleshy as well, so I was concerned that this would
 not be a simple clip. She tried him with the supplementer anyway and he could
 not effectively grasp the nipple. She was, however, thrilled to have a way to
 feed the baby w/o a bottle (supplementer on her finger) and before I visited,
 she had gotten a better pump and was getting twice the milk already. She and
 her dh were relieved that there was an explanation for their problem. I did
 tell her the baby was also clearly nipple confused and that it may take a bit
 of time to get him to breast. I gave all of the nuzzling, carrying,
 co-sleeping tips and names of ped's who would help her. The next day, I
 called and she said her ped was wonderful and willing to work w/ them! Sounds
 great, right? Well, it seems the ped told her the baby is *not* tongue-tied
 and is just nipple-confused, but that he will work w/ her instead of me. (Her
 insurance even covers me). Now, I know I can make a mistake, but this baby is
 tongue-tied! The ped told her he would teach her excercises to do w/ the baby
 and this would solve her problem. I have a call into the ped now to speak w/
 him, but around here most of the ped's are quite arrogant about these things
 and become defensive very easily. So, wish me luck! (I am going into the
 conversation *assumming* he will *not* be defensive at all).
 Jennifer Tow, IBCLC, CT, USA
  >>

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