I just recived a catalog from Liberty Natural Products they have a web site at www.teleport.com/~liberty I have not looked at yet. You can also call in the USA 1-800-289-8427. They have a minimum order of $50.00 Daniel D. Dempsey P. O. Box #5 Red Bluff, CA 96080-0005 U.S.A. [log in to unmask]