> some of us don't > have access to the University library. There is no point in telling > us to look up an article in a magazine which we don't subscribe to. > No... I can't afford to subscribe to all the mags. Anybody on good terms with even two or three people in the bee business in most countries - and more than a very casual interest - can get his or her hands on almost any recent (and many not so recent) copies of Bee Culture or ABJ. These are, I believe, the esoteric and very rare publications about which this matter began. Although may not be in many University libraries, they are likely in a nearby beekeeper's bookshelf. > So.. I repeat, a > brief precis giving the authors view would be benifcial to all. I'm > sure the author, provided the contents, contax, etc are not changed, > wouldn't mind. Well, what I think people are (too politely, perhaps) trying to hint is that they *do* mind having someone demand they precis an article of little interest to them for someone who is unwilling to get up and get it for himself. And if the author him/herself is being addressed, I am sure that it is a little insulting to be asked to give the whole carefully prepared piece in a few words. Most here believe they are subscribed to a *bee* list for discussing matters relating to bees, not the basic and well established methods of researching and studying. I am sure if *anyone* is having genuine dificulty obtaining important info, or if material is at all hard to obtain, the list will bend over backwards to assist. On numerous occasions the scientists and extension people here have mailed me very helpful information. People will give as much or as little info as they wish - Many very knowledgeable people sit and read and never post at all - we're privileged if they do. Let's bee content with taking what is offered freely and not begin to demand that others serve us only according to our own tastes. And let us get back to bees... OK?? --------------------------------------------------- "Fearing not that I'd become my enemy - in the instant that I speak" Regards Allen W. Allen Dick, Beekeeper VE6CFK RR#1, Swalwell, Alberta Canada T0M 1Y0 Internet:[log in to unmask] Honey. Bees, Art, & Futures <http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~dicka>