Hei! I attended a meeting yesterday with the subject "herbal cures and homeopathy". I am still sceptical to say the least about highly diluted solutions and their possibility of having an effect - but many present were convinced that they had seen cures or themselves had been cured by such "medicines". As a beekeeper I asked whether bee venom or propolis were used in homeopathic medicine and got a somewhat negative reply, which was followed by the following statement:- There is available a homeopathic "medicine" known as Apis Mellifica which is an extract of whole bees prepared in alcohol and then diluted by many factors of 10 (presumably in water, this wasnt clear). This agent was claimed to work for ordinary bee sting discomfort, massive allergic reactions and also for long term desensitising. Has anyone heard of this before? Have I misunderstood ? Is it just non-substantiated rubbish, or what?? As a subsidiary question, what would end up in such an alcohol extract? Cheers Tony. --------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony N. Morgan (Tony) Fax: +47 73 89 62 86 "Stavshagen" E-mail: [log in to unmask] Midtsandan Sor-Trondelag College 7563 MALVIK Elec. Eng. Department Norway 7005 TRONDHEIM, Norway ----------------------------------------------------------------