Allen; I have been wearing the Kelley nylon suits for years. I like the zip-on veil suits as I can drop the veil when driving or when I want a clear look and I can buy new veils anytime to replace worn ones. I like the zipper veils as they are bee-tight as there are few things worse than having a bee flying around inside the veil aiming for your earlobe, as that is the spot that hurts the most for me. They are hot but hey I live in North Carolina - the land of heat and humidity -so I just wear shorts and a t shirt under the suit and sweat. Hydrate up before going out and sweat, just don't get too hot. I like Kelley's nylon suits because they last forever, are relatively cheap - $72.50 with veil, and the bees don't sting through the nylon even when stuck to your skin. Wash them and they dry in 15 minutes, so I do a dunk in a 5 gallon bucket with a bit of dish detergent at the honey house to keep the suits out of the family washing machine. The main reason I wear a suit is the keep propolis off my clothes. I travel a lot too and when doing consulting work wear almost all nylon now as it is lightweight and I can wash nylon shirts and pants in a hotel sink and air-dry overnight. I have had too many clothes go walkabout in third world laundries so now I don't tempt the launderers and do my own. Makes for a lightweight bag too. I get my nylon goods at REI and Bean, as the guarantees are for life. When I travel I wear what the local beekeepers wear. Currently I am working in the Republic of Georgia and the bees are lovely. We wear a simple one piece light cotton hat/veil combo that costs about $2 to make. When working in Southern Africa we dress for war when working those bees though.....heavy cotton suits, wellies, heavy rubber gloves. Bill Lord Louisburg, NC *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html