>In recent discussions, formic delivery in Dri-Loc 50 pads came up. Can >somebody explain how the pads were prepared, what strength formic, how >long the treatment lasts and how many applications are needed for a >complete treatment? Can't seem to get to any information online. A >short description or a link would sure be appreciated. Thanks. We discussed this quite a bit a while back. One link in the archives is: http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=ind9909D&L=BEE-L&P=R3123&1=BEE-L&9=A&I=-3&J=on&X=74AC5D5F9E5776EE79 (When searching the archives at http://www.bee-l.org, always select the "advanced" link, then experiment a bit). There are illustrations at http://www.honeybeeworld.com/diary/2000/diary101000.htm Note: the technique now calls for 2 pads, side by side, 1/3 from the back of a double brood chamber. Average temperatures expected over the next few days should ideally be 15 to 25 degrees C. (60 to 75 degrees F) as I recall, but Medhat or Randy may jump in and correct me on that detail, since this dose is higher than previous recommendations and is aimed at fall treatment. Morning application may be a good idea in order to get consistent results. Bottom entrances are left open, but top entrances will affect the concentrations and should be closed, as should other large cracks and holes. Bees can ventilate quite a bit through fairly small holes. I checked through the 15 pages of our 2011 recommendations and could find no information on this current recommended use of formic. The reason for applying in a specific temperature range is that hot weather will cause more rapid evaporation and perhaps an overdose, and cool weather will result in too slow a release to accomplish much. Since each beekeeper's equipment and management may vary, the way to proceed is to do a limited test, watch the temperatures, then check for efficacy and for brood or bee damage. That will determine future dosing and temperature decisions. Populations and other factors discussed in recent messages will have an impact on efficacy. Within that band of temperature, 65% formic should not cause damage and should have a strong impact on both varroa and tracheal mites. Below 55 degrees F, the bees tend to cluster and this reduces efficacy, even if evaporation occurs. *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm