Hi Murray > Yikes, what a horrible thought! That is too much to contemplate for a civilised discussion :-) > Did you see it on the tv? Not at first hand, but I suspect there are/will be some video links lurking on the Irish List. > Pretty resounding eh? Now remains to be seen what happens That is the bit that bothers me... High ideals and tight purse strings. But to return to our beekeeping remit, you raise 2 or 3 thousand queens a year, what percentage are raised by deliberate queen rearing methods as opposed to those generated as a result of colony manipulations like splitting ? -- Regards & Best 73s, Dave Cushman, G8MZY http://melliferabees.net Email: [log in to unmask] Short FallBack M/c, Build 7.21/2.01 Son of ORAC M/c, Build 5.o1/2.o1 **************************************************** * General Information About BEE-L is available at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/default.htm * ****************************************************