> *if* proof exists Israeli Acute paralysis virus *is* the cause of CCD but all of us are familiar with bee paralysis virus symptoms and none were reported in CCD survey's. I am very familiar with Acute paralysis virus and have been a part of sending samples to the U.K. for virus ID. Also have had many direct talks with Norman Carrick on the subject (U.K.) Also with Dr. Shiminuki and the subject. Interestingly today the Sept. Bee Culture came with an interview with "Shim". Brought back memories of our discussions on beekeeping problems. On page 22 "Shim" is asked about CCD and more importantly about paralysis virus. Yes years ago the USDA-ARS did quite a bit of research on Paralysis virus. Here is his comments: " When we were studying paralysis virus we found that bees will leave the colony , they simply walk away out the front door BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FLY" Now if Paralysis virus were the number one cause of CCD would not we find a few of these bees outside the entrance? I have seen Paralysis virus first hand in several states under all kinds of conditions and YOU ALWAYS find bees crawling around the hive. No exceptions. bob -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ****************************************************** * Full guidelines for BEE-L posting are at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm * ******************************************************