"I told the list before FGMO was tested in Missouri under a Sares grant as per Dr. Rodriguez method from the internet and the FGMO was a complete failure". I follow the list closely and learn much from the postings. Sometimes I pick up valuable information, sometimes I laugh aloud, sometimes the postings are long winded. I am sure this has been stated before, but I can not let this go by without commenting. I have used FGMO with no other chemicals for 2 years with great success. I am not sure why the test in Missouri was a failure, but it is obviously not that way for all of us. Many that use FGMO are simply looking for a way to get the harsh chemicals out of the hives and away from our bees. "I am disappointed my friend Joe Graham (editer ABJ) published a untested formula for using mineral oil and thymol in bee hives". I would question the use of Thymol being "untested." Or do you simply mean because it hasnt been tested by someone of your choosing? I believe that everyone has the honeybee's best interest at heart, we just pursue it differently. I wish you all the best in your pursuit! Kurt :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::