Fascinating thread, which provoked the following thought. Has anyone tried blank foundation, that is a blank wax sheet without any embossing? If so, what has been your results? Such an experiment would be interesting, automatically attaching the wax to the base of the frame, thus eliminating that usual problem. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::