Hello Steve & All, Steve said: There is a book which is a collection of lectures on the topic of bees by the late19th and early 20th century occult spiritualist philosopher, Rudolf Steiner. The book is called "Bees" Lectures by Rudolf Steiner translated from German by Thomas Braatz Rudolf Steiner wrote over 50 books which were published in German. Most involved biodynamic farming methods and for his trouble many call Rudolf Steiner the "father of biodynamic farming". "Nothing happens in living nature that is not in relation to the whole" was the general idea. The book is in the Nature department of book stores and the English edition is avilable now in the U.S.(copy 1998). Steve said: He even gave a time table for it's demise. I think it was supposed to have already happened, but the point was The time was approx 80 years from the date he made the prediction which was in the year 1923. The prediction was mainly about a new problem which would arise and almost totally wipe out beekeeping . Rudolf Steiners prediction: "The honeybee has been bred for profit to a point where it has become easy prey for viruses and parasitic mites that will destroy the species in approx eighty years" U.S. & British intellegence agencys used the help of Rudolf Steiner during the war years as documneted in books written about the period. One book points to the valuable information provided by Steiner a turning point in the war. I thought I would add information to Steves post as I have always been curious about Steiner after reading about Rudolf Steiner. I have read the book "Bees". Sincerely, Bob Harrison Odessa, Missouri :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::