>and flakey paint, dried grease tucked away here and there, which also >wasn't helpfull. > >I've got 80 hives on over 100 acres of lemons, and there's still lots of >nectar out there, so the advice is really helpfull. Tim, You should consider buying a stainless steel extractor. With 80 hives it may not be worth straining rust and paint out of your honey. I'm sure you don't want a customer (wholsale or retail ) to find it. You can usually find a used stainless extractor for a few hundred dollars. marc studebaker