For those who don't have time to read,  it’s a great compilation of information on resistance,  citing hundreds of strains  and highlighting what we know as 		well as what we don't know.  Bottom Line,  while many are sure "overuse" is the problem,  we actually don't know for sure.  Many "resistant" strains 	arealready naturaling occurring and are simply unknown to us

	>resistance happens and it cause is really not that difficult to figure out.  many many bugs have become resistant to this or that spray and the mechanism is 	quite clear.  PRETENDING that this function (how it works which is really the very BASIC question of science) makes your argument less than creditable.  	Repetitive collective human behavior in regards to the history of 'resistance' would at least suggest to me why antibiotic is now showing up in honey samples 


Come on Gene!  That’s a silly line to debate,  it’s a quick summary and should you actually read the report,  you would note its not my argument!,  it’s the work of several great researchers,  who quite clearly point out that there are a LOT of naturally appearing resistant strains.


We keep referring to propalactic treatment,  it’s a garbage term thrown about by those of us with no specific knowledge of the situation.

>This makes you sound Charles as if you know ALL about everyone and everyone.... including lots of folks you have never met and don't really know.  Personally I try to discourage hobby beekeepers from this behavior and know lots of commercial guys whom I do know well enough to know that any such discussion will fall on deft ears.  

 You missed it again!  This was not about people at all,  it was about the graphic overuse of the word prophylactic to describe things from afar as opposed to actually being involved.  A simple admonishment that one mans opinion of overuse,  is another version of preventive.




>Well I can as an economist (very temporarily taking off my simple beekeepers hat) describe to you any number of cases where the so called free market (do note the word free and the basic concept from the same area of study that nothing is free) do not work so well. 


You and Randy both want to take silly views of the free market to absurd extremes when I was quite obviously talking about a specific point.  I am very surprised at that type of obfuscation here  when we were on point,  which was/is the reason to let that dog lie.     Rest assured the concepts of slavery and child labor and world trade  were not part of the discussion on how the free market could have better addressed the implementation of less antibiotics in feed.


Charles

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