On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:02:41 -0500, Steve Noble <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>I think I have to side with Peter on this one.  The burden of proof is
>on the accuser.  There may be intuitive reasons to believe migratory
>beekeeping at least contributes to some of the problems we face today, but
>what I am seeing here is trial by assumptions based on what people think
>MUST be the truth because how could it not be.  I see a lot of statements
>being made as facts with no backup at all.  I see no actual documentary
>evidence being presented for the argument that all we have to do is get rid
>of, or regulate more strictly, migratory beekeeping, and most of our
>problems will go away.  


Steve do you keep hives in areas where migratory beeks operate? If not I would suggest you don't 
know what you are talking about.  

so you're expecting to find volumes of scientific studies correlating the movement of large 
numbers of hives into an area and then proving the new comers left disease, mites or whatever? 

you're dreaming,  the number of variables is infinite,  every situation is unique. 

if you live in the upper midwest or CA and experience rapid increases in hives moved into your 
area one does not need a scientific study to prove the obvious. 

there is ample scientific evidence that AFB, mites and SHB spread from other hives. the final proof 
that movements of bees spreads problems is that we have an African Hive Beetle in North America 
and varrora mites that originated in Asia now around the world. 

doing a study to see if migratory beeks spread problems is like doing a study to see if people 
need food to survive. its inherently  obvious. 

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