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Bob Harrison <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 8 Apr 2008 22:58:05 -0500
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  The US researchers are not as ignorant as you imply, and have
> taken note of the Spanish work.

I am not sure ignorant fits but arrogant might. Spain research is far ahead
of U.S. research as far as N. ceranae is concerned. Spain has eliminated
varroa and virus as the source of their disappearing bees and have
recreated CCD in the field.

 I have not yet made final spore counts, but no
> single treatment stands out as being particularly effective.

You mean other than fumidil?

Many of us have been so dissatisfied with U.S. research we have looked to
other countries for answers. The U.K. for answers on virus and now Spain on 
N. ceranae.

The thing that U.S. researchers need to remember is when you tell us a
different story than those researchers from across the pond (which have got
years  of research on the subject) we start to wonder if you really have
taken the time to read the research from those people. As higher numbers of 
beeks learn to use the net they find that they can quickly find information 
faster than simply calling the bee lab. Read research other than research 
published in the bee magazines.  However information on U.S. beekeeping is 
still best found in ABJ & BC.

I was out in the building getting boxes ready for tomorrows splits when Dave 
Hackenberg called saying he was impressed with my neonicotinoid article ( 
April ABJ) .  Almost brought tears to my eyes when I heard his message. Dave 
was the inspiration for me doing the article.

The world of beekeeping is a small world. Jim Fischer said it best on BEE-L 
years ago when he said that only in beekeeping could you attend an EAS or 
national meeting and meet most the people you read about in the bee 
magazines.

I spent countless hours fussing over wording on the neonicotinoid article. I 
felt the article would be well received with the staff of ABJ (and Joe 
Grahams always valuable  wisdom) and the proof reading of Randy Oliver and 
Tim Tucker. I received no hate email but did get a few requests for my 
sources on a couple subjects which I sent to those people.

I am considering a  part 2 and will include a new fight with Bayer taking 
place in France ( over a bee kill linked to imidacloprid this month) and 
research showing dead bees with neonicotinoids found in the mid gut of dead 
bees. Maryam of our list and doing the "vanishing bees" documentary is in 
France right now doing interviews. She is going to call me when she returns 
and report what she learned.


bob

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