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Mon, 6 Sep 1999 01:42:43 -0400
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Barry Birkey said:

> Making a statement like, "Treating varroa mites with Fluvalinate strips
> showed actual varroa population increase of 64 percent." deserves a big DUH,
> but only after we find out the fact(?) that the bees used in the testing
> were resistant to the fluvalinate.  Is this a case of pulling selected
> information from a study to bolster a products salability?

[jhf>]  It was pure huckstering and scare tactics.  It was
            a very irresponsible example of what greed can do
            to some people.  (Has anyone ever seen such large
            print used to try to sell ANY beekeeping product
            before?)

            I, for one, have no intention of doing any future
            business with anyone who goes out of their way to
            attempt to both mislead and scare beekeepers
            into buying something of unproven value combined
            with extreme and known hazards.

            Part of the "value added" I expect from a vendor
            is "advise and counsel" in the form of product
            research and technical knowledge.  Dadant,
            Brushy Mtn, and other vendors offer me their
            candid opinions and the benefit of their wisdom
            in every conversation.  For example, a recent
            flyer (Aug/Sept) from Brushy Mtn stated (I quote
            below, word for word):

                        Check Mite Plus

                This chemical has been approved
                in approximately 20 states at this
                time under and EPA section 18.
                It is for the Hive Beetle and in certain
                states, where the use of unapproved
                chemicals have resulted in the immunity
                of Varroa Mites to the fluvalinate in
                Apistan Strips, it is approved for use for
                Varroa.  DO NOT use this chemical unless
                you have a infestation of the beetle in your
                brood chamber.  Read and follow label
                instruction to the letter.  Very Nasty
                    Pesticide, it is toxic to birds, fish, humans
                and aquatic animals.

        OK, no points for grammar, but full marks for substance.
        THIS is what I would expect all vendors to stress to
        beekeepers.  The same page also contains an "Update
        On Formic Acid" and a "Beetle Update", both trying to
        educate, not scare, and both suggesting "normal" treatment
        practices are the appropriate course of action.  Yes, Brushy
        Mtn can sell you Check-Mite, but I'll bet you'd get an
        argument from them if you were in a state with no known
        beetle infestation.

        At the Virginia State beekeepers' conference this summer,
        the State Apiarist was questioned closely by all and sundry
      in a rapid-fire Q&A session about all of the "newly approved"
        chemicals, and the whole "Section 18" deal.  (It turns out that
        most states simply photocopied Florida's application, and
        gained approval "just in case".)

        There was a considerable divergence in the initial views
        presented by the attendees, but the State Apiarist made
        a very good point:

                Don't try to solve a problem that you
                don't have!

        If you don't have beetles (we don't in VA), and your mites
        are not resistant (they aren't in VA), stick with the safest
        chemical, since harsh treatments tend to "stress" the bees,
        and hence, reduce bee lifespans.

        He also asked anyone who thought that they had either
        hive beetles or "resistant" mites to call his office so that
        he could send one of his men out to confirm or deny before
        anyone started tossing ecological hand grenades at their
        beehives.

        Barry Birkey further said:

> One always must treat statements like this with a grain of salt.

[jhf>]  I'll go further.  A 100-lb BAG of salt.

            "Technical Update", indeed.

          I think I'll just mail my copy of the flyer to the EPA and
            see what they have to say about it to Mann Lake.  If I
            were the EPA, people who write ad copy like that are
            the last people I would want licensed to distribute any
            controlled substance.

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