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Jerry Bromenshenk <[log in to unmask]>
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We can verify Randy's observations.  To date, we have more than 1000  samples 
from 70+ locations across the U.S.
 
We often see Nosema ceranae in collapsing colonies, but NOT in all  of the 
colonies.  This may be a correct finding, or it may be a  result that is an 
artifact of incorrect sampling - having to do with  what is termed 'a 
representative sample'.  In other words, how many bees,  of what age, and in what part of 
the colony do you need to sample to discover  something, if its there.  
Defining what is a truly representative sample  takes some work.
 
Based on the findings of the Spanish, conversations with Randy and Eric  
Mussen, we've changed our sampling, and put it to the test last week in  CA.  In 
many cases, we got decidedly different results, depending on the  age of the 
bees that we sampled.  As reported by the Spanish investigators,  if N. ceranae 
was present in these samples, we found that it  showed up in the old bees, and 
in dead and dying bees in front of the hive, but  not necessarily in young 
bees.  In really bad cases, it was in bees of all  ages.
 
I also recently  saw  what may be my first  observed case of a bee kill from 
N. ceranae,.  The  colonies  were doing poorly, dead bees on ground in front 
of hive (1-2 bees  per square inch, for 1-2 feet out from entrance), dead/dying 
bees were of  all ages, and they were loaded with N. ceranae - worst case 
that we've  seen.
 
In addition, this beekeeper and others who have sent us samples  with high 
levels of Nosema often report that their colonies aren't making  honey.
 
Since last April, we've been finding N. ceranae in lots of  colonies.  Like 
others, we're having trouble finding any N.  apis.   From our findings, if a 
bee operation has CCD, we will  see N. ceranae in at least some of the bee 
colonies.  I still  don't know if its a causal agent or a consequence of some other 
 pathogen.  We are seeing viruses in conjunction with Nosema in CCD  colonies.
 
Clearly, some bee operations have a Nosema ceranae problem, and it  by 
itself, at the levels we've seen in some of these operations, reportedly is  
sufficient to cause major problems.  And, we've seen lots of failures of  various 
treatments in terms of ability to control this pathogen.  Simply  stated, we lost 
90% of our colonies, and they were treated with registered  products, at the 
doses, etc. on the label.
 
Eric commented to me that some of the commercial products vary in terms of  
concentration of active ingredient, so read the label before making up any  
syrup.  This reminds me of the days in which TM came in lots of different  
concentrations, with little or no labeling that would give you a warning that  the 
product varied - eventually they started clearly labeling as TM  as TM10, 25, 
or 100.
 
Also, according to Eric, Randy pointed out to him that the last  registration 
for fumagillin that we had in the US was when we were using  Fumidil-B.  The 
Medivet product, Fumagilin-B, is coming into the US from  Canada under a 
veterinarian memorandum of understanding with the FDA.  It  is not registered.

IF/when bees go off feed, they won't take any medication in syrup, since  
they won't eat.  The Spanish drench their bees to treat severe cases of  Nosema.  
 
That's NOT according to label in the U.S.  I've heard rumors  that the drench 
method is described on the label of one of the  Canadian products - if so, 
maybe someone on this list has that  information. Note, neither I nor Eric can 
recommend use of unregistered  products nor off label applications.
 
I'm not convinced that force feeding (by drenching) of sick bees is  going to 
work - it may be too late.  That said, even in the worst case  scenarios, we 
found colonies with lots of Nosema in older bees, but the newly  emerged bees 
were not infected - yet.  So, treating these colonies may  save these bees.  
Just don't expect it to help the old bees - they may be  too far gone.
 
However, like Randy, I don't think Nosema ceranae is the full  answer with 
respect to CCD.  Having seen a case of what appears to be a  classic bee kill by 
Nosema, as reported by the Spanish - it  was NOT the SAME as CCD.
 
Nosema is of sufficient concern, unto itself, that we've set up to  screen 
bees and comb for Nosema, with MSU doing PCR confirmations (is it  ceranae or 
apis), as needed.
 
So, check for Nosema, but don't blindly treat.  Treat if you find  it.  You 
may have to treat now to protect the summer bees, treat again in  the fall to 
get through the winter - again, according to our colleagues across  the pond.  
Reportedly, if left untreated, it will begin to show up in bees  inside the 
hive by mid-summer.
 
Treating for Nosema twice a year should help, but it doesn't seem  to cover 
all cases of CCD.  DO NOT EXPECT it to protect you against  CCD.  Nosema may be 
a player in terms of CCD, but its not the  full answer.
 
We've re-sampled some operations that have had a long history of poor  
performance, as well as having had CCD.  Operations  with lingering problems (over 
months) frequently have Nosema.  
 
To summarize:
 
We currently think that N. ceranae accounts for some of the poor  performance 
and bee losses being seen.  I think it may be a component of  CCD.  I don't 
think it causes CCD by itself - but this is clearly in the  realm of OPINION.  
 
Best advice, start screening for N. ceranae, year round.   Treat if needed, 
and follow up with Nosema screening to see if the treatment  worked.
 
Keep in mind, we've been finding Nosema all year round.
 
Jerry
 
 
 
 
 



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