> Randy and Jerry have been hinting about knowing the (a?) cause and in 
> Randy's case, being able to invoke collapse.

What these guys are hinting about is no secret. Both have been sharing there 
experiments with many beekeepers. even the Australian beekeeper asked if I 
had heard about their experiments.

Basically Randy has been grinding up CCD bees ( whatever CCD bees are?) and 
are taking hives and spraying the solution on the bees and the hives start 
failing. Claiming to be able to create CCD symptoms at will in normally 
healthy hives ( however hives with nosema ceranae loads are not  hives which 
higes and I would not consider *nosema ceranae clean hives*.)

According to Jerry B. the research is based on the hypothesis that nosema 
ceranae in combination with another pathogen is responsible for CCD. Jerry 
B. knows from private email I find the hypothesis very reasonable.

I suspect a strong hive without nosema ceranae would not be effected by the 
spray *unless varroa loads were high*  but maybe not. This approach was used 
in Florida when looking at the hives of Hackenberg and the bees were 
unaffected i was told.

I commend Randy & Jerry for the testing!

bob

 

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