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Jim Moore DTN276-9448 ogo1/e17 508-496-9448 <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 13 Jan 1997 07:56:20 PST
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        One key advantage I have found in feeder bags over inverted bottles
is less spillage. When the daily temperature differential is great, cool/cold
in the morning, sunny warm day, the air inside the bottle/pail expands,
pumping out syrup. This is the weather patter during Spring and Fall feeding.
You can usally see it running out the entrance early in the morning. As the
bottle become less full and the volume of air increases the amount of
spilling also increases.
 
        One advantage to inside bottle/pail feeding is easier access by the
bees as they can access and remain in the warmth of the hive. For the feeder
bag they need to climb on top of the bag. It may not matter that much though.
 
        Spilling while preparing - zip lock bags when they spill, spill the
bulk of the syrup. You want the zipper zipped all the way (as my mother used
to tell me as a child)!
 
        I have no experience with glass bottles as the Boardman feeders I
have constructed use 64 oz. plastic fruit juice bottles.
 
        Lastly, when removing the bottle/pail can easily be removed partially
filled without making a mess. With feeder bags you need to wait until empty.
However, the bags can be lifted and replaced carefully if they are on a queen
excluder or feeder bag tray of some kind, thus permitting hive inspections
and manipulations. A steady hand is required though.
 
        ---------------
 
        I've been toying with an idea for emergency cold weather feeding and
would appreciate comments. Since the feeder bag does not have spilling
problem due to warming the following idea occurred to me.
 
        Basically a solar heated cold frame type stucture placed on top of
the hive with the feeder bag and air space warmed by the sun during the day.
The temperature permitting bees access. The design would be simple (like a
solar wax melter) with the glass facing the sun. The design would need to
keep the temperature from getting to high with vents or single pane of glass.
     _
    | \
    |  \       sun
    |   \
    |    \
    |     \
    |__FB__|
    |      |
    | hive |
    |------|
    |      |
    |      |
    --------
 
        FB feeder bag(s).
 
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        Would the cluster disperse and find the syrup? Would the bees be
faked into thinking it was warm outside? If so, I think I would need to
confine the bees to avoid losses due to freezing. Would the then warmed and
confined bees "have to go" thus soiling the hive?
 
        This is intended as an emergency feeding method only. I appreciate
that the best way to answer the above questions is to experiment and a some
point I will. Maybe someone on the list will give it a try. As a warning, I
think the biggest risk would be to much heat, causing damage to the bees and
comb if the cold frame is too efficient.
 
        Comments would be appreciated.
 
 
 
        Jim Moore
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