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Marcia Sinclair <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:36:22 -0800
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Well, based on the sounds my small domestic cat makes when the vet takes a
sample, I'd hate to be the poor little bureaucrat sent in to squeeze the
cougar. Fences seem to be the best solution for keeping deer out of the
brussel sprouts, but I am intrigued by use of lion dung, as Portland Zoo has
a program called Zoo Doo which delivers manure to gardeners. Hadn't thought
of requesting a specific species of the stuff. I'll start my garden next
spring in a former pasture and I'm sure to have a few visitors. I live in
cougar habitat, too. No telling what our local big cats may think of Eau De
King of the Jungle.
 
At 07:29 PM 11/4/96 GMT, you wrote:
>MS>And how exactly does Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife acquire cougar p
>
>Here in California one of my neighbors is a long time state trapper
>and he tells me other then being very careful doing this kind of work he
>said he collected it and many other natural scents from captured and
>cage mountain lions, and coyotes. I won't go into the gross details.
>
>As for using it to repel deer it does work if the deer are not really
>hungry and then even tall fences will not keep them out of a garden or
>orchard. Don't know about bears as most here use well constructed
>electric fences.
>
>The down side to using natural scents is that they are better at
>attracting animals then repelling them, and I am not sure I would
>want a pride of mountain lions roaming about in my garden at night,
>but I have hunted them in a past life and had many chances to shoot
>at them and could not because of their natural beauty...they are now
>a real problem in California and I would not stop to think about if I
>had a chance as they have just about eliminated the deer population in
>this area. They also are protected by law and require the permission of
>the governor countersigned by the green peace to kill. They are killing
>and injuring more people then honeybees in California.
>
>I have used many tons of dried blood (animal type), also a real hot
>source of Nitrogen, to repeal deer. It works only as long as you keep
>adding fresh and if you skip on a wet or windy day the deer will enter
>and did eating even the onions.. The problem went away for a year or
>two after a 18 hole golf course was built several miles away, but the
>deer population increased and they came back with revenge. As a boy we
>had more deer to dinner then beef as we had a year around permit to
>reduce their numbers on our small ranch which was in a NO
>hunting/shooting area because of city people moving to the country and
>their lack of common sense when it comes to guns and hunting. Most can
>not tell a deer for a cow and all put our lives in danger during hunting
>season.
>
>Someday when you have time I will tell you my story of the famous Brain
>Surgeon who lived down the road a few miles and because a bee stung him
>and he found out I had one beehive, my first as a 4-H project, was going
>to sue my parents and take our ranch and home.
>
>                              ttul Andy-
>
>
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