Jon Johanning wrote:

>Bob K. wrote:
>
>>IIRC (I mean it this time!) there used to be a 'breve', which was twice the
>>length of a whole note and looks something like a whole note with vertical
>>lines on either side of it.
>
>You're right. Nowdays it's only seen in scores of *very* early music.

One can also see it in Brahms, in the motet "Lass dich nur nichts nicht
dauren mit Trauren." and in some editions of the b minor mass of Bach, you
will find them at the end of the Dona nobis pacem.

Kevin Sutton