Oh Jon that sounds more like it. I guess I'm prejudiced about grandmothers, especially if we BF. We do know almost all! And it sounded so good! Sincerely, Pat in SNJ This is what I have as the quote by Oliver Wendell Holmes "A pair of substantial mammary glands has the advantage over the two hemispheres of the most learned professor's brain, in the art of compounding a nutritious fluid for infants." Jon Ahrendsen MD FAAFP Clarion IOWA 50525 ----------