Just an update after my visit at the hospital of mother who is engorged, suffering from spinal headache (and other post C-sect pain). She got some relief from the blood patch procedure and pain meds. She finally managed to pump a bit in side-lying position (using a good electric pump). Cabbage leaves seem to have helped, too. She's sitting up presently and pumping better. She's discharged from the hospital and focusing more on baby. Mother has very low confidence right now, but is back to trying nursing. It seems as if her let-down is delayed/inhibited. We're working on it. Thanks for all your help and advice! Susan Horein, LLLL Madison Area Concert Handbells (MACH) Wisconsin, USA mailto:[log in to unmask]