I have found this debate over whether to split the BEE-L to be very interesting. As a hobbiest, I have learned a great deal over the past half year from the more experienced members. Ironically, some of the same people who have fretted about the declining numbers of beekeepers in America -- and the need to encourage interest -- are complaining now about the "takeover" of the list by the non-professionals. It will be a shame if the two sides can't coexist on one list. As a matter of practicality, however, those who would prefer a more scientific discussion will probably need to form a moderated list. Regardless of its original mission, BEE-L has firmly become a general discussion list for beekeeping. Ah, but we could be a happy hive . . . . Dan Salemson Raleigh, North Carolina USA