A qoute from the Iliad (Homer) My 12th grade daughter brought this to my attention from her English Literature Book. Sounds like children(and parents) never change. "So saying, old Priam tore Gray hairs from his head, but he could not persuade the heart Of his son. And then, beside the old king, Hector's mother, Wailing and shedding hot tears, undid the front Of her gown and holding out one of her breasts, spoke these words Winged with entreaty: "Hector, my child, have Some regard for this and pity your mother, if ever I quieted your crying by giving you suck at this breast. Remember all this, my precious child, and fight Yonder savage from inside the walls. Do not be so heartless As now to stand there and face him. For if he should kill you, I'll never be able, my darling, to who I gave life, To so much as mourn your dead body laid out on a bed, Nor shall your rich-gifted wife, but far over there By the Argive ships fast dogs shall devour you completely!" Thus the two wept and called out to their much-loved son, Beseeching him over and over, but they could do nothing To change Hector's heart as he stood there and awaited The clash with gigantic Achilles."