These are good sources, but you’re looking for a foundry that does cast metals. Swank is good, but unfortunately there seems to be little of a pan-America look later. The intake pipe is almost certainly a cast product but with a 30”OD there are limited numbers of places that can do that. A good thing to do would be to chemically fingerprint the pipe and then use that to compare with an ironworks with the appropriate initials. Lyle Browning, RPA www.fallingcreekironworks.org <http://www.fallingcreekironworks.org/> > On Feb 23, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Kate Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Keith, > > I've found Google Books to be extremely helpful in providing historical > sources that list iron works or furnaces for my own research in > northwestern CT. A couple sources which might be helpful in identifying the > name (the first coincidentally from 1884) > > Swank, James Moore. 1884. Directory to the Iron and Steel Works of the U.S. > https://books.google.com/books?id=V141AAAAMAAJ&dq=iron% > 20furnace%20iron%20works&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false > > Lesley, J. Peter 1859. The Iron Manufacturer's Guide to the Furnaces, > Forges, and Rolling Mills of the U.S. > https://books.google.com/books?id=NSJDAAAAIAAJ&dq=iron% > 20furnaces%20connecticut&pg=PR1#v=onepage&q&f=false > > Hope those prove useful! > > Kate > > > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Madrigal, Cregg <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> Well, that changes everything. One possibility is the Camden Iron Works >> (NJ), founded in 1845. Here's a plan map of their factory, surveyed, >> coincidentally, in 1884. >> >> https://www.philageohistory.org/rdic-images/view-image.cfm/ >> HGSv19.1830-1831 >> >> Cregg >> >> >> T. Cregg Madrigal, Ph.D. >> Environmental Specialist 3 - Archaeology >> New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection >> Municipal Finance and Construction Element >> Bureau of Environmental, Engineering, and Permitting >> Mail Code 401-03D >> 401 E. State St. >> PO Box 420 >> Trenton, NJ 08625-0420 >> 609-633-1170 >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keith >> Doms >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:00 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Cast iron pipe >> >> Actually, I curse my dyslexia, the letters are "CIW". I am assuming that >> it should be C... Iron Works. The joint is somewhere underground and >> not currently accessible. It may even be under the modern road. It is >> assumed that the race was culverted when the paving of the road under which >> it passes. From what I read the greater Philadelphia area was a major >> producer of cast iron pipes until the 1880s when production centers moved >> south and west. Thus far, I have not been able to locate any list of >> foundries from the region. I did see a listing for the Chattanooga Iron >> Works but the record indicated that that firm only produced frying pans and >> small goods. >> >> Keith R. Doms >> Newlin Grist Mill >> Site Manager >> 219 S. Cheyney Rd. >> Glen Mills, PA 19342 >> (610) 459-2359 >> [log in to unmask] >> -----Original Message----- >> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob >> Skiles >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:23 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Cast iron pipe >> >> Keith, >> >> Are you absolutely sure that it's CWI [C.W.I. ?] and not CWT ? Have you >> ever seen how the lengths of pipe are joined (bell & spigot, butted, >> flange-and-bolt) ?? >> >> Perhaps the easiest approach to identification is an archival approach. >> For such a major project (a 30" water main would be considered a "major" >> project, even in Texas) there were doubtlessly copious records in the >> books of the governmental authority (county / city ?) who actually >> bought-and-paid-for installation of the pipe. On such projects, it is not >> uncommon to find recorded lengthy discussions prior to the project over >> which particular pipe/manufacturer would be best, then there's the bidding >> records (usually replete with historical information on the type of pipe / >> manufacturer testimonials / comparative testing results / pertaining to >> usually several bidders). I would go down to the local-temple-of-justice >> (courthouse / municipal records building) and give a quick perusal through >> the purchasing / bidding records for the water projects for the period you >> suspect the pipe was laid (if they have not all been incinerated in past >> courthouse fires, like a lot of them have been across the South where we >> stupidly built wooden courthouses during earlier settlement). >> >> SOMETIMES the archival approach in local records may give surprisingly >> quick-and-easy answers (for example, I was once working on trying to >> identify various fragmentary construction artifacts from a previous Texas >> courthouse covered by the modern one ... quite a problem until I found the >> record book of the Commissioners Court where every single item that was >> purchased for the old courthouse had been tediously itemized as to cost and >> supplier). >> >> Bob Skiles >> >> >> On 2/23/2017 7:31 AM, Keith Doms wrote: >>> Unfortunately, my copy of American Iron is awol. Can anyone out there >> check the index to give me a clue please? >>> >>> Keith R. Doms >>> Newlin Grist Mill >>> Site Manager >>> 219 S. Cheyney Rd. >>> Glen Mills, PA 19342 >>> (610) 459-2359 >>> [log in to unmask] >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >>> Patrick Martin >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:19 PM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: Cast iron pipe >>> >>> Must be some ironworks with CW name. Don't have resources at hand out on >> a road trip, but I would start with Bob Gordon's American Iron as a key >> source. >>> PEM >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:34 AM, Keith Doms <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Has anyone come across cast iron pipe with the Letters "CWI" molded on >> it? We have a 30" id. Pipe with "CWI 1884". Any thoughts about the >> manufacture? >>>> >>>> Keith R. Doms >>>> Newlin Grist Mill >>>> Site Manager >>>> 219 S. Cheyney Rd. >>>> Glen Mills, PA 19342 >>>> (610) 459-2359 >>>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>