>So how does that compare with the amounts of food saved. Typical here in the Midwest is 2 deeps for wintering, most places in the souther us, run a deep and a super. Hi Charles We would expect to winter on around 25lbs stores. We use bakers' fondant to top up any light colonies, but they often use little of it - some last winter used none at all. The price of sugar for winter feed is very high here in the UK - 12.5kg (27lbs) of fondant is around £12, so winter feed costs can wipe out any profit from honey - this is where A.m.m. scores. Best wishes Peter 52°14'44.44"N, 1°50'35"W *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html