>> Like I said, I present the three options and let them decide. Dont forget about the 4th, and that is to leave them in the void. My concern about giving advice over the phone is that you do not have a clear description of what the problem is without an onsite visit. For example, advice to spray bee killer into the void, whats on the inside of the void?,,,,electric panel etc? What about advice to plug the hole,,,if the colony is not completely dead, there is good possibility of the colony finding entrance into the living quarters,,then what? I've had bees in house calls which turned out to be swarms or exposed nest, ect, which beekeepers would be happy to retrieve for no cost. Best Wishes, Joe Waggle *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html