To add to other post: Remembering that breastfeeding is a dynamic process, the focus needs to be on getting mother and baby together as much as possible and being as low-tech as is possible for that mother and that baby in their circumstances..Funnily enough, four very simple strategies I regularly find can help are: 1) If I get up and leave the room to do something and leave Mum and baby to their own devices - give her some "space'. 2) If I suggest the mother gets up and walks round for a few moments, taking the pressure off her. (Then I suggest it might work at home, too.) 3) A nap, or at least a rest on the bed. So simple, but I've seen it turn around the situation where mother and baby have both become frustrated at the mother's anxious attmpts to latch; mastitis that isn't responding; low supply related to overwhelming weariness. It's a tip I learnt many, many years ago from LLL. A "holiday in bed with the baby" on the weekend is even better, but even a morning will do. 4) Encouraging the mother to notice her baby's hands and what they do in the process of getting onto the breast, and also the use of the little hands to stimulte the MER by pressing against the breast. (I first noticed this back in the 1990s when I realised that calves and goat kids head butt the mother's tough, leathery udder to encourage a letdown, and so I started to obsever what babies do, instead.) This isn't to say that there aren't circumstances where we need all our hard-earned skills and even some technology - and we do - but don't let us forget that sometimes it is the low-tech skills that help us help the mother to turn the corner. My 2 cents' worth. Virginia In Brisbane, Queensland. *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome