PS. In case you or others reading get the wrong impression, Mike, I really appreciate your comments and experience, and recommend your methods to those in your climate. I even try them here from time to time. *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm