> I don't know what the pads cost these days, but I seem to recall they > were less than three cents each, but maybe it was 10 cents (does anyone > have recent info?). $.0325 to $.035 ea. in lots of 2000 depending where you live in northern Alberta. Medivet sells 65% formic in 20 L or 204 L. One less thing for someone to screw up, marked pails or not. I have never siphoned anything without some spillage. Blow the budget and get a drum cradle with ($120) or without wheels ($100) that safely tips the barrel on its side and use a plastic valve. Dave Tharle Ardmore, AB *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm