What about the rest of you? (those with ccd experience) Going from a 84% winter loss to a 60% winter loss over a three year period would make me look to a different solution. You are Ok with these loss rates? I had a friend which believed large doses of VC would cure his throat cancer. He refused regular treatment. I sure miss my old friend. I know of know research which says VC is poison to virus. Can you direct us to the source of your conclusion about vitamin C.? I would bet money I could find many common (for today) problems in your hives. None of which are cured by vitamin C (and would explain your high losses over winter.) bob *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html Guidelines for posting to BEE-L can be found at: http://honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm