Ruth, If she has the choice, encourage her to have a natural childbirth, no epidural or the like, can she take nourishment herself and not have IV's? Or if needed or desired, have a heparin lock or saline lock placed in case emergency meds or blood is needed. This will help the baby's part of the bf dance, having an alert baby who can root and attach to the breast. It will also help the mommy anatomy, not contributing to the nipple-areolar edema recently discussed by Jean Cotterman. Teach mom RPS and (while I realize this is a device many consider unnecessary) consider the use of a product similar to the nipple everter, I have heard moms say it really works. (She asked for suggestions ya'll!). Laurie Wheeler RN MN IBCLC Mississippi USA *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome