I am posting this for my co-Leader who is not on Lactnet, I will then forward the replies to her. She has been working with a mom on this as well as our local LCs without resolving the problem. Thank you. <<<<I have been helping a mom who is experiencing what appears to be an extremely persistent bleb. Baby is 9m, mom works ft, does pump. Mom has always struggled with pumping enough for baby, worked on getting more milk with pumping was successful, did get a plugged duct. Believe the plugged duct led to the bleb. Mom has seen the white at tip of nipple, and it is extremely painful. She has tried olive oil, frequent bf, bf over baby, opening and attempting to open bleb (by midwife and self), warm water, using vibration from electric toothbrush. She has seen her midwife, has talked to 4 different LC's and this has been going on for 8 weeks. In last 2 days she has felt the pain shooting up the duct. I suppose it could be thrush ( and she has tried thrush remedies---gentian violet) with the shooting pain. But I don't think this is an underlying thrush problem, there are no other s/s of thrush in her or baby. She doesn't always see the white bleb, usually only visible after nursing or after a warm shower. I wonder if the bleb has moved and that is the pain she is feeling. I have suggested grapefruit seed extract (reference on Kellymom) and was wondering if lecithin could help as well. Any more ideas? >>> Kim Ann LLL Leader [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome