I have seen pictures of lids bent in half and the queen excluder puled through the top, the strapping was steel cargo strapping it did not break but the hive was destroyed. Harper's Honey Farm Charles Harper [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] (337) 298 6261 Tim wrote: > why not try Strapping first? *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html