Oh gosh, Judy, please let me know if what I've been saying all these years is just a story of two separate studies, LOL! Seems like the "telephone" game where things get distorted as they go down the line. I'm sure I heard this from someone but it sure did seem unethical. So I guess it didn't really happen as told. Guess I'll be changing that part of the class but it did fit so well :-) Ilene Fabisch, IBCLC/RLC *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome