And then there's the ouchy way to do it- my daughter had a tight upper lip, when she was 16 months old she slid on some ice, did a face plant, and walla, the tight lip was released. I have an uncle who had a tongue tie, a fall also solved his problem in his teens. Granted a little past breastfeeding, but sometimes kids solve the problem themselves. Heather Shelley Utah, USA *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome