Liz wrote <Yeah -- she may huff and puff and slam the phone down on you. But I'm will= ing to bet she'll think about what you said.> I had at least two responses when I read the post. First, I'm always learning and if I missed something, *please* do me (and everyone) a favor and tell me I missed the boat. Sometimes I even know I missed something, I just can't figure it out. Second, sometimes mothers leave and I'm pretty sure they didn't hear what I was trying to say. That's when I'm glad I work with someone else and can ask moms to come back (and let someone else give it a go). So once again, *please* tell me. I certainly don't want mothers suffering (literally and figuratively) due to miscommunication. And then I thought that I'm really thankful for the persistence of mothers. How would any of us be where we are today, how would our profession be where it is, if it were not for the willingness of someone to say, "You know, I tried what you said and it didn't work. What else can I do?" How would we know that certain interventions work were it not for finding that others do not? Some of what we do is caught not taught, and it's the mothers that help us "get it." Mary Wagner-Davis, MS, MFT, IBCLC Roseville, CA *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome