Dear All, A thought after attending Med School class (this week) entitled "normal labor.". Discussion mentioned that second stage increased due to epidural - approx 50% longer. Breaking down the data in this new study about micro-hemorrages during vaginal delivery by epidural status (if there were any without epidurals?) would be an interesting data point since the baby's head hits the cervix so much more--not to mention breaking out oxytocin status. What should be research showing concern for active management of vaginal birth, it is interpreted against vaginal birth entirely. references: Increase duration second stage by 25 min avg - http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/aug2001/nichd-09.htm Note in this study that the comparison group were NOT unmedicated. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0689/is_n3_v40/ai_16722350/pg_2 Karen Seroussi, IBCLC, MS-2 Ps. also had the experience this week of sitting through the ONLY scheduled class on breastfeeding in the didactic portion of medical school--exactly 50 minutes. Fortunately, good info and the students were engaged--now they know to find an LC which is a good thing. --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET email list is powered by LISTSERV (R). There is only one LISTSERV. To learn more, visit: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html