Nina Costanza wrote: >Forgive me if this is too simplistic, as I have enjoyed the eloquent >investigations on this topic... but the reason art exists in my mind >(visual, aural, movement, film) is because what is being expressed cannot >be adequately addressed in word language. I would agree, but for me the question is, what is it? Is it thought without language or are those expressions language without words. >I equate the type of mind/brain activity used in creative works (that >are not verbal) to dreams. The memory of dreams can evaporate when >words are used to describe them, even to ourselves. I think there are >many other ways of "thinking" such as in sports and dance that are not >at all verbal. Yet, you can get a decent sense of a football game by listening to a radio broadcast of it...of course there was the Peter Schikele broadcast of the first movement of the Beethoven 5th...done in the nature of a sporting event. I also wonder about dreams...did not Stravinsky say that his Octet for Winds came to him in a dream. Karl