Kathy: The article I was talking about does not specifically mention vacuum extractions. I have the article in front of me and this is now direct quotations: "Common circumstances under which NDEs occur include: surgery, accidents, allergic reactions, acute illness, drowning, combat trauma, suicide attempts, terminal illness, and childbirth...It is also significant to note children have NDEs...One difficulty is that NDE experiences may happen to children who are very young - possibly too young to talk. Children who experienced difficult births, illnesses or accidents at an early age may have had an NDE and consequently, have lingering after effects. My personal comment was that I felt that it might be easy for a baby to experience NDE after a vacuum birth, if not done correctly (and not all are, I also am an L&D nurse). The point of my post was to say that I found this article to be very thought-provoking with NDE certainly worth looking into. I know there is a website: www.birthpsychology.com that explores similar subjects. Hope this clarifies things. Pam Hirsch, BSN,RN,IBCLC Clinical Lead, Lactation Services Advocate Good Shepherd Hospital Barrington, IL USA *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html