While we're all venting, here's my latest: Near term baby, shoulder dystocia (don't get me started) so they, get this! shove baby back in and do a csec as a first option. Mom is pumped full of fluid, etc, and her milk does not come in until day 10, though baby latched right on after birth and appeared to feed well in the first couple days. Baby was somewhat jaundiced in hospital (14 at day three), and since there was "no milk" baby was fed formula by bottle. Very confused, chomping on nipples (bottle and mom), and mom told to pump q4hrs with a PNS, though baby was not latching properly *at all* by this time. Mom was only pumping 5oz all day by the end of 2 weeks. So we are working on getting the supply back and doing lots of s2s. I am optimistic since baby could apparently transfer colostrum well right after birth. Another episode of birth complications messing with breastfeeding. Lynn in MO USA *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html