>Researchers and extension agents lurk on the list. understandable why they do not, when their participation leads to being browbeaten and misquoted it's easier to listen to the conversations than to converse. I think the reasons I gave fit the researcher scenario better than yours but only my opinion. Researchers are held in awe at their presentations by the average beekeeper. On Bee-L as few of us are prepared to lock horns with researchers and question the so called absolute truths many (not all for certain) put out. Bob -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---