Hi, Pam: I beg to respectfully disagree with you, but CLC means certified lactation consultant. UCLA has used CLE (Certified Lactation Educator) and CLC (Certified Lactation Consultant) designations since they offered their first Lactation Training Program back in 1982. This is a master's level certification course offered in 2 parts - the Lactation Educator Training Program and the Lactation Consultant Training Program. Part 1 (educator) is a pre-requisite for Part 2 (consultant). Part 2 also requires that the participant hold a health care license (MD, RN, RD, PT, OT, SLP, etc.) as the participant is seeing higher level problems and it is felt by the faculty that the participant is then legally covered by their license's practice act. Part 1 of the program certifies the participant to teach breastfeeding and to manage routine non-complex breastfeeding issues. Part 2 certifies the participant to not only teach and manage routine brstfdg, but to manage the more complex brstfdg issues. These programs are based on the medical model (so helpful to understand if one is practicing in the hospital or clinic setting) and have a strong oral-motor emphasis to them. I maintain that even those of us who have been in practice for many years would benefit greatly from the material covered in these courses. Oh, the faculty is composed of breastfeeding professionals from a variety of backgrounds - MD, RN, RD, PT, SLP, and LLLI. To further prove that one does not have to have an RN background to be a successful breastfeeding clinician. Pam Hirsch, RN,BSN,CLC Clinical Lead, Lactation Services Advocate Good Shepherd Hospital Barrington, IL USA who is UCLA-certified since 1985 and does many, many CEUs/year to keep current *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html