Did you want to consider adding flow at breast with a simple feeding tube, a la Jack Newman MD? This often gets babies to wake up..and feed more effectively. Kathleen Kathleen Bruce RN IBCLC Independent consultant: Breastfeeding Clinic of Vermont, Lactation Resources of Vermont, Medela, Inc. Listowner Lactnet listserv [log in to unmask] Archives: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html