In a message dated 12/1/2004 9:26:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Regarding this statement previously posted on lactnet: >>>Don't have any studies to quote but how can we forget the huge maternal >>>and fetal mortality before the advent of c-sections and modern medicine>>> There are many things I could add or not add to this discussion, as a CLC (working on the IBCLC) who deals daily with women who are recovering from Cesarean, the idea that Cesareans do not affect breastfeeding is not based in science. Often, a care provider does not see a woman after her six week checkup and doesn't see her between day 2-4 and six weeks. While I realize this differs widely per doctor and per woman, it leaves a significant limbo where care providers simply don't see the recovery period of a Cesarean...which can last for months and sometimes years. Women are more likely to be depressed after a Cesarean, less likely to bond with their babies, more likely to be exposed to more serious medications, as are the babies, more likely to experience seperation, the babies are more likely to have respiratory issues, and more likely to be premature and have an immature suck reflex, women are more likely to get put back into the hospital after a cesarean, have a harder physical recovery with more children at home to care for, All of these risks go up as more cesareans occur for that woman. According to the studies, the likelihood of women NOT breastfeeding after a cesarean is very high to high...1-10 of every 10 mothers and babies, to 1-9 of every 100. (per MCA's document earlier this year....feel free to read it at _www.ican-online.org_ (http://www.ican-online.org) ) Also, Fetal mortality is going up as the Cesarean rate is going up as is maternal mortality and as the VBAC rate becomes nil (over 300 plus hospitals now BAN vaginal birth after cesarean), more women are being coerced or forced into their surgeries, which makes them feel even less secure and willing or ABLE to take care of their babies. To be told your body is broken is a powerful message. Shannon Mitchell Become an ICAN Professional Subscriber and be listed on ICAN's referral network! Connecting birthing families with the services you provide. http://www.ican-online.org/community/prosub.php Reclaiming Our Choices in Childbirth 2005 Joint International Conference April 29 - May 1, 2005 San Diego, California http://conference.ican-online.org *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html