Allen asks: Any ideas what the response will be to naturally ocurring substances like oxalic acid? I don't know what the response might be to formic acid also. I have heard that in certain states bee inspectors are looking the other way when it comes to formic acid use but the FDA are the people doing the looking and not the bee inspectors. I would guess if oxalic or formic acid could be used without raising the level over the level normally found in honey the treatment would pass FDA scrutiny. The confiscation of the huge volume of honey by the FDA (Texas)by U.S. marshals should be a wake up call for those using illegal chemicals. Can any large scale beekeeper afford to lose his/her entire honey crop to confiscation by the FDA? The FDA denied the request of a few packers for a tolerance for chloraphenicol in honey and also selling the chloraphenicol honey "ultra filtered" as pure honey. Looks to me like the FDA has caught the attention of packers and after a few producers get their crops confiscated and destroyed the rest of the producers will forget about illegal treatments. Honey will be on the FDA *watch list *for two more full years *and* the watch can be extended if the FDA feels the watch needs extending. Bob :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::