> Unfortunately, it means Statement 2 > is too simple - yes, left alone the bees go - over the hedge! They consider > the nest 'complete' when it reaches 15 frames backwards from the entrance - > and swarm. > Robin Dartington. > Perhaps I did not communicate my point well. I was referring to possiblities of using TBH's in more remote areas where one would likely access hives less frequently. I was not suggesting that one neglect the hive for prolonged periods. As to the 15 bar barrier, I suspect that when they reach the 15th bar has a large bearing. I've got two TBH's now with around 20 bars drawn, and I haven't seen any swarm preparations. The same condition a month ago probably would have created a swarm. Todd. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/BEE-L for rules, FAQ and other info --- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::