One thing that might resinate with her would be to tell her that these late signs of hunger the baby he's exhibiting only worsen and make it HARDER to latch him on if he is not fed BEFORE he gets upset, and that hunger can be *painful* for infants. I know its hard to know what to say when you're trying to be gentle and respectful. That poor little child, I can put money down that she will not only be bottlefeeding soon, but this baby will be left to CIO alone in his crib b/c mom recognizes what are *normal* needs as "controling" and "bad habits." :( Megan *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html